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000. welcome & faq
This Week in Meta is a pan-fandom meta newsletter. It collects links from: Dreamwidth, LiveJournal, Tumblr, Twitter, Youtube, blogs, and anywhere else people may be writing and talking about meta. Newsletter guidelines, linking rules and etiquette, as well as posting policies and moderator accounts can be found here.
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What is meta?
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Meta or a meta essay can also be a fan-authored piece of non-fiction writing that discusses any of the above topics."
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What is linked here?
Meta about: fandom as a whole/concept, fandom history, fannish activities/experiences, fandom statistics/polls, acafan writings, fandom-wide news and resources.
We will (probably) not link to: memes, headcanons about specific characters or fandoms, episode reviews, book reviews, movie reviews, homework help, troll comments/deliberate wank.
Why don't you link to meta about specific fandoms?
Sometimes we do, if it's the kind of meta that could apply to multiple fandom genres, character types, tropes, etc. Also most fandoms have a newsletter or noticeboard of their own, so if you're looking for meta about one specific show, you can usually find it easily enough.
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Mmmm, I don't mind if individual people link to public posts on my DW without asking. I feel a little differently about a big fandom newsletter doing it with no warning.
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I thought perhaps a good compromise would be to sort people and link them directly to the issue they're in, and then offer to take down the link if they wanted.
Not to be just negative, but: I don't think that really works -- the link will have been out there long enough that people will have already followed it, and people also get notifications of posts or leave their tabs open and so on. It can be very hard to unring the bell. Then if someone is unhappy with having been linked, they might just delete or lock the post anyway, and think twice about posting public meta in the future.
I think it's partly Tumblr v Dreamwidth yet again. On Tumblr everything was absolutely open and people could find you with universal keywords or reblogs, and so people were very open to dozens or hundreds of strangers reblogging their post and commenting on it. (Or not open, as the case might be.) With Dreamwidth, people are more used to talking to their circles, although most people will also welcome comments from outside circles or even other sites. But that tends to be a trickle, not something that can happen all at once. One reason why I'm on DW is I really disliked the Tumblr pile-ons.
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I don't think you'd need a button, just ask a yes no question. There's chances of a button/widget not loading right anyway.
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I feel like the ability to lock and also the ability to just say, never link me, should be enough (yes, that'd mean that linking is default and you'd have to actively opt out, but this is the internet and even archive.com isn't respecting robots and spiders any more...which horrified me when i found out!)
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(I admit that I didn't follow metanews, mostly because I was already following most of the people who got linked there anyway.)
I also, as a separate issue entirely from the_rck's post, wrote about dreamwidth pile ons, and how they've happened in the past: https://muccamukk.dreamwidth.org/1190836.html
I really don't want you to think that I'm not supportive of this project! I think it's great! I'd really like to see it do well.
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I would like to NOT be in charge of a thing which propagates bad experiences, and while nothing's happened yet (as it's only, uh, three days old), fandom DOES have a bad history of piling on and "calling out" people and it's probably only a matter of time before something blows up.
But I'm trying to think positively, ha. And figure out a set editorial guidelines/policy manual, and post it here for people to see. If anybody is seeing this, and is interested in a still-in-process early version of the guidelines, I have it up here: https://pastebin.com/PmRz2Zc7
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Thank you for all the thought you're putting into this. I really appreciate it.
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Metanews, yes. Meta fandom was another project entirely.
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An example: a while back I was doing a thing where I summarized the events of the Silmarillion chapter-by-chapter in Approachable Me-Style Talk. It was something I was happy to do publicly, and I was absolutely fine with people spreading individually, but at the time I was super burned on the kind of attention that could come from any kind of aggregator (whether this kind of metafandom one or even the kind of Fandom Newsletters that were still stumbling along to silent death at the time).
So I put a "please do not aggregate" note on the index post, because I knew that those operating at the time knew what that meant and would follow it.
Honestly just from what I've seen in responses it seems intuitively likely you would too! So it might seem like A Given? But I think explicitly noting it if so would also help anyone who is wary feel better.
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I already have a note about 'please don't repost huge chunks of my blog without asking' and don't really want to add another one about 'please don't link to a newsletter without asking' because then it seems next week I'm going to have to add 'please don't X without asking'....I know DW has privacy controls but it seems like some people are more used to the Tumblr binary on/off -- if it's public, it's REALLY public, so to speak.
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That's why I'm talking about this specific account saying specifically that they won't aggregate if there's a note right on the post. Presumably the people operating the account would then follow their own specific policy. (And if not this is a whole different convo.)
I'm not actually stating "I think we should norm things so that everything's fair game" bc I'm not actually in control of the norms and have elsewhere already made pretty clear that I think asking before linking in this kind of newsletter is a better way to go? So.
I just think there's benefit in stating "by the way we will definitely abide by any notes on your post saying 'don't link this in newsletters'", because then people can work on the assumption that you're that level of thoughtful/respectful of the poster's wishes, unless you do something specific to make that a lie. I think noting that explicitly - for this newsletter, specifically - has a potential benefit in terms of signalling attention to those concerns.
Like: there's no way to keep malicious or thoughtless Persons In General from linking or copying or otherwise using anything public, so if one is assuming bad faith/indifference then locking is your only way. So I'm not really bothering to think about those cases. Much like that kind of person isn't going to be stopped by my having a related works policy, they're also gonna link anything that isn't locked? So.
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....okay?
I'm not sure why you're bringing this to me as I've already stated I think that asking etc is the best idea and what I'd prefer?
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I totally would, but I'd be happy to include it explicitly in the guidelines as well. :D